This Issue...
WHERE IS THE BAR?
Denver Thomas
How might we fare if the Lord were to rate us
as He did the seven churches of Asia?
In my high school days, there was a very competitive sport
referred to as the Pole Vault. The object of the sport was to see
how high one could leap with the assistance of a pole to cross a
horizontal bar without knocking the bar down. The bar could be
adjusted upward or downward as needed to correspond to the skills
of the various participants. The participants were always striving
to attain a higher level of skill since the one who could vault the
highest would be declared the winner. A competitive spirit was
evident in those who were in the game.
       
I have come to see a close parallel of that sport to
todays religious community and especially within the
Lords church. Whereas, we, as Gods elect, should ever be
striving for higher standing and going on to maturity (Heb. 6:1-2),
we have been letting the bar down to accommodate
practices that we simply do not want to face up to. We boast of
being a first-century-like church, but are we? I wonder
if we are even like the church of fifty to a hundred years ago. We
seem to forget that even though society may change, Gods will
(word) for His followers remains unchangeable! We will be
judged thereby (John 12:48)! We have evolved into what I have
chosen to call A Happy Family Syndrome. The thought of
offending someone has become the governing factor in so many of our
practices and decisions. We have become careful to avoid any number
of topics. Space only allows for a few.
       
Same-sex marriage has been declared legal and binding
by the high court of the land. So, what do elders and preachers do?
Generally speaking, they act as if it really is of no concern. Oh,
they may speak of the evil of it before the congregation, but to
what avail? Telling a Christian that sodomy is an abomination to
God is similar to telling a Christian that baptism is required for
salvation. A Christian already knows as much. Instead of taking a
stand against such enactments, they simply lower the bar.
       
Church discipline is something we simply no longer
attempt to carry out in our congregations. Fear of reprisal may be
a factor. Instead, being a big happy family has taken
precedence over following the standard Gods Holy Word,
the Bible. Quantity has become of much greater concern than
quality. Church oversight has lost sight of Reprove, Rebuke and
Exhort (2 Tim. 4:2). Unhappy folks are simply invited to go where
they will be happy, no matter the reason for their state of mind!
Down goes the bar!
       
The oversight of the church (Acts 20:28) has been
passed from elders to located preachers and pulpit
ministers in many congregations. Problems are placed
in the preachers hands for resolution which most generally
never happens. Paul said a little leaven leaveneth the
whole lump (Gal. 5:9). In any event, it is difficult to
find scripture to support this type of organization. Again, we see
the bar being lowered.
       
What does First Timothy 2:9-10 say about modesty?
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest
apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair,
or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women
professing godliness) with good works. We have lowered the
bar to accommodate anything goes and in some cases
less than anything goes so that the dress code is pass‚!
       
Earnestly contending for the faith (Jude 3) is yet
another area where the bar has been lowered (maybe removed
altogether). Over and over again we see those who sit in secure
surroundings discussing the sectarian community and how they are
abusing or misusing the scriptures, but they never go and face
those they criticize.
       
When and how do we relate to marriage, divorce and
remarriage among the elect? We just do not go there! Civil laws
have eased the process and church leaders are simply unwilling to
stand up and be counted. We just lower the bar.
       
Then there is the neglect in attendance, service,
study and doing what is expected of one claiming to be a
Christian. Apathy and complacency are taking their toll in our
congregations. Sermons are often innocuous making the hearers feel
good and comfortable rather than being encouraged to do better and
be active in the work of the Lord! Zeal for the Lords work is
lacking. We just lower the bar.
       
Then, there is that area having to do with seeking the
lost. We like to preach baptism, but fail to go and teach
candidates worthy of baptism. We are more inclined to preach
baptism as it conflicts with sectarian use, but we never face them.
Debates went away in previous generations. We like to quote Mark
16:16 skipping over verse 15. We avoid Matthew 18:18-20 as it puts
us where we just do not want to be! Why do we choose to ignore
Pauls many examples (cf. Acts 20:18-21 for example)? We just
lower the bar.
       
So, where does the bar hang in the Lords church of
today? Does it reflect the high standard the Lord requires? How
might we fare if He were to rate us as He did the seven churches of
Asia in Revelation 1-3? Might He say, I have somewhat against
thee? Most likely, we need to examine our practices and
correct as appropriate. But will we?
               
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Editorial...
VERBAL INSPIRATION
Garland M. Robinson
The Bible is the ALL inspired, infallible, inerrant, plenary,
verbal, word of God. It is without doubt or fear of refutation,
Gods revelation to man. INSPIRED means the Scriptures are the
product of the creative breath of God, not the result of human
genius or opinion. INFALLIBLE and INERRANT means the Scriptures are
incapable of teaching error or deception. PLENARY means all parts
of the Bible are inspired alike. VERBAL means the Holy Spirit used
the language form and words of those whom He inspired to reveal
Gods Will. The very words written were approved by the Holy
Spirit and are the words of heaven.
       
Second Timothy 3:16-17 declares that all scripture
is inspired, not just parts of it. It is inspired by God. Its
literal words, every word, are God breathed. That makes
the Scriptures flawless, perfect. All scripture [is] given
by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for
reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the
man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good
works. God does not want anyone to be lost (2 Peter 3:9),
so he has provided us his Word (Bible) that tells us what to do to
be saved from our sins.
       
We are assured that nothing has been lost or left out.
...His divine power hath given unto us all things
that [pertain] unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of
him that hath called us to glory and virtue (2 Peter 1:3).
We have everything we need (in the Scriptures) to live a decent,
godly, upright life as he wants us to live. Doing Gods will
makes us a blessing to humanity. Refusing his will makes us a
curse.
       
God watches over his word (Jer. 1:12) so that it cannot be
lost. Jesus, the Lord and Savior of mankind, said, For
verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled (Matt. 5:18). A jot is the
smallest letter of them all, hence equivalent to the minutest part.
A tittle is the smallest accent mark or diacritical
point, the extremity of a letter. Jesus verifies the fact that even
the smallest squiggly (wavy and twisting) of a letter is inspired!
Who can dare claim to be a judge and proclaim we dont know if
the Bible is fully inspired or not?
       
How dare any man to come along and claim the Bible is
inspired but not in every passage. Where did such a man learn that?
He didnt learn it from reading the Scriptures. What evidence
can he produce to verify that information. Who gets to decide which
passages are inspired and which are not? How presumptuous and
ridiculous pompous men can be! Either the Bible is inspired or it
is not. If its only partly inspired, then no one but God could
reveal which parts are inspired and which are not. That makes it a
useless book. If that be the case, we might as well trash it and go
home.
       
Jesus argued the point concerning even the tense of a verb
in Matthew 22:32 when he said I am the God of
Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the
God of the dead, but of the living. Am is
present tense, not past or future. Therefore, Jesus affirmed the
fact that he is (not was or will be) the God of Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob. By making this argument he validates the teaching of the
resurrection of the dead. The elite at Mars hill mocked news
of the resurrection just like many today (Acts 17:32).
       
Its not enough to simply say the Bible is inspired.
Many people believe it is, but only in the sense that Shakespeare
or Milton was inspired. If such is the case, then all we have is a
work of fallible man and is no more than a product of human minds.
       
Some believe in the idea of thought inspiration. That
is, God supplied the thought and left it up to the individual to
put into words that expresses what he thought God meant. We
strongly deny this was the case. God not only supplied the
thoughts, He chose the words as well! Some say, how then do you
account for the variation in style and differences of some of the
wording in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Consider an illustration
of a man driving a well trained horse. You draw the lines to
the right or the left as you see that the horse needs guidance; you
check him when he would go too fast, and urge him forward when he
would go to slow; but he usually keeps the road and maintains the
desired gait and speed of his own accord; still your hand is ever
on the lines, and its pressure on the bit is constantly felt, so
that you are controlling the horsess movements when he is
going most completely at his own will. Indeed, the horse is all the
time going very much at his own will, and yet he is never without
the control of the driver. (Evidences of Christianity,
McGarvey, p.213). Another illustration uses a musical instrument.
The exact tone brought about by the performer depends somewhat
on the character of the instrument as well as on the skill of the
performer, so when the Spirit acted on the inspired, the words came
forth in the style and vocabulary of the writer.
(McGarvey, p.214).
       
Every part of the Bible is verbally inspired. Every part of
the Bible is Gods Word to humanity. The words of the Bible are
Gods words! The Holy Spirit guaranteed each writers words
to be free from error. These holy men of God wrote what God wanted
written in every detail! How did God accomplish this task?
       
The Bible teaches verbal inspiration (word
inspiration). Verbal inspiration is not merely mechanical where God
dictated and the scribe wrote. Rather, God used the vocabulary and
style of the individual to express His Will. More than 3,800 times,
in the Old Testament alone, the Scriptures claim to be the word(s)
of God.
       
Throughout the entirety of the Bible, take note of these
verses:
       
Exodus 4:10-12, Moses said unto the LORD, O my Lord, I
[am] not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken
unto thy servant: but I [am] slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.
11And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made mans mouth? or who
maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I
the LORD? 12Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and
teach thee what thou shalt say.
       
Exodus 17:14, And the LORD said unto Moses, Write
this [for] a memorial in a book, and rehearse [it] in the ears
of Joshua.
       
2 Samuel 23:2, The spirit of the LORD spake by me,
and his word [was] in my tongue.
       
Isaiah 51:16, I have put my words in thy mouth,
and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may
plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth.
       
Jeremiah 1:6-9, Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I
cannot speak: for I [am] a child. 7But the LORD said unto me, Say
not, I [am] a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send
thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak. 8Be
not afraid of their faces: for I [am] with thee to deliver thee,
saith the LORD. 9Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my
mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in
thy mouth.
       
Jeremiah 50:1, The word that the LORD spake
against Babylon [and] against the land of the Chaldeans by
Jeremiah the prophet.
       
Matthew 10:20, For it is not ye that speak, but the
Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
       
Mark 12:36, For David himself said by the Holy
Ghost, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
       
Mark 13:11, But when they shall lead [you], and deliver
you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do
ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour,
that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy
Ghost.
       
Luke 1:70, As he spake by the mouth of his holy
prophets, which have been since the world began.
       
Acts 1:16, Men [and] brethren, this scripture must
needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of
David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them
that took Jesus.
       
Acts 2:4, And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost,
and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them
utterance.
       
1 Corinthians 2:4, And my speech and my preaching
was not with enticing words of mans wisdom, but in
demonstration of the Spirit and of power.
       
1 Corinthians 2:12-13, Now we have received, not
the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we
might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which
things also we speak, not in the words which mans wisdom
teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth.
       
1 Corinthians 14:37, If any man think himself to be a
prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that
I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
       
1 Thessalonians 2:13, For this cause also thank we God
without ceasing, because when ye received the word of God which
ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but, as it
is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in
you that believe.
       
2 Timothy 3:16, All scripture [is] given by
inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for
reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
       
2 Peter 1:19, We have also a more sure word of
prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a
light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day
star arise in your hearts.
       
2 Peter 1:21, For the prophecy came not in old time
by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved
by the Holy Ghost.
       
Revelation 2:11, He that hath an ear, let him hear
what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
       
What emphasis does God place upon his word? Of the 176
verses in Psalm 119, the Word of God is mentioned 182 times. Such
distinction, reverence, respect and honor is paramount in the
words: law (25), testimony(ies) (23), commandment(s) (22), statutes
(22), precepts (21), judgment(s) (19), word(s) (42), way/ways (8).
       
No wonder Hebrews 4:12-13 reads as it does. For
the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than
any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul
and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of
the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13Neither is there any
creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things [are]
naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to
do.
       
There is no salvation apart from the WORDS of God. One
cannot be saved without WORDS. It is by obeying WORDS that God
blesses man. The people on Pentecost had to hear WORDS (Acts
2:14,22,40,41). An angel told Cornelius to send for Peter
Who shall tell thee WORDS, whereby thou and all thy house
shall be saved (Acts 11:14). Throughout all time we are
told to preach the WORD (2 Tim. 4:2). Do your own
simple search for word/words. Youll be amazed at the
emphasis placed upon Gods Word. According to the view of
skeptics, we cant tell which words are Gods and
which are mans. If youve bought into that, I still have
that ocean-front property in Tennessee Im looking to unload.
       
The Bible, particularly the New Testament, is the book from
which all humanity (since the day of Pentecost in Acts 2) will be
judged. Jesus said, ...the WORD that I have spoken, the
same shall judge him in the last day (John 12:48). The
dead will be judged according to the Bible (Rev. 20:12).
       
Are YOU ready to be judged by the Lord? Why fight against
him by refusing his word? You cant be smarter than God! Read
it, Believe it, Obey it, Keep its commands and you can have a home
in heaven when you die and this world is over.
               
               
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COMING OUT OF PENTECOSTALISM #2
Bill Davis
Please refer to last months issue (August) of Seek
The Old Paths in order to get the full context of our
discussion on Coming Out Of Pentecostalism.
       
Another difficulty a Pentecostal has in his understanding is
when he hears the truth that God does not work present day
miracles, he believes we are saying that, God doesnt
answer prayer anymore. Just because the day for signs, gifts
and miracles has passed does not mean God does not answer prayer.
It is a mistaken idea to believe that in order for God to answer
prayer he has to perform a miracle.
       
Lets look at Matthew 6:11 where Jesus encourages us to
pray, Give us this day our daily bread. The
question must be asked, does God have to perform a miracle in order
to answer this prayer? After praying this prayer in the morning
before starting my day, Ive never walked downstairs to find a
miracle supply of groceries on the table. However, I do go to work
and make a salary which in turn is spent at a grocery store for
buying my necessary daily provisions. I would never go to the
refrigerator looking for milk to be there when I havent
purchased any and say, Okay God, wheres the milk?
Dont you know I need milk today? I prayed this morning for you
to supply my needs, so where is the milk? Even those who
believe in present day miracles dont do that.
       
God does supply my (our) daily needs, but I still have to
get out of bed, go to work and labor that day to earn a salary in
order to purchase what I need.
       
The same basic concept applies whenever I get sick. I go to
the doctor who will decide a form of treatment or a certain
medication I need. Do I pray for Gods help for my health? Yes,
of course I do. I pray for my health to be restored. Does a miracle
take place? No. There is no miracle restoration of health to my
body.
       
I think many Pentecostals and Charismatics in modern times
do not actually know what a genuine Bible miracle is. In the early
days of Pentecostalism, true adherence refused medical treatment.
They believed that divine healing was just that; divine without the
help or aid of human intervention. Nowadays, the modern Pentecostal
will have two surgeries and six drug prescriptions in order to get
better and then claim a miracle healing! This is either dishonesty
or ignorance.
       
Think about the difference in real Bible miracles and what
people are calling miracles today. In these modern times the word
miracle, like the word love, has been abused and misused until most
people dont know what the real thing is. Advertisers misuse
the word miracle every time they use it to try and promote a
product. Its not surprising that Biblically ignorant people
will call anything a miracle that is amazing or wonderful. It is
surprising that people who claim to know the Bible do the same
thing. A simple reading of the life and ministry of Jesus would
clear up this confusion.
       
In the sixth chapter of Luke we find the account of Christ
healing a man with a withered hand. 8But he knew their
thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise
up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth.
9Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful
on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to
destroy it? 10And looking round about upon them all, he said unto
the man, Stretch forth thy hand. And he did so: and his hand was
restored whole as the other. Thayers Lexicon says
of the word withered, of members of the body deprived of their
natural juices, shrunk, wasted, withered. This is what we mean
by a miracle. Jesus completely restored the mans withered
hand.
       
Notice what else the New Testament says concerning the
healing ministry of Jesus. Matthew records, And great
multitudes came unto him, having with them those that were lame,
blind, dumb, maimed, and many others, and cast them down at
Jesus feet; and he healed them: 31Insomuch that the
multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb to speak, the maimed
to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they
glorified the God of Israel (Matt. 15:30-31).
       
Among all these amazing miracles, lets pay particular
attention to the healing of the maimed. Thayers tells us that
the word can mean a member of the body that is crooked, injured,
disabled or mutilated. Notice how Jesus uses the word maimed when
he says, And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is
better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two
hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be
quenched (Mark 9:43). Then he goes on to say, And
if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter
halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell,
into the fire that never shall be quenched (Mark 9:45).
Jesus uses the words maimed and halt
interchangeably. In these passages he describes what he means by
the use of the words. He means a missing member of the body.
Thayers says that the word halt means lame or
deprived of a foot, maimed.
       
The restoration of a limb (arm or leg) is a true Bible
miracle. It is a miracle that cannot be faked. It would also be
obvious for anyone to observe and would not be based on ones
subjected, personal feeling.
       
When the Lord walked the earth there were many people with
leprosy and various parts of their body missing. Jesus had no
problem healing any of them. Many in modern times have claimed to
have this ability and even the ability to do greater
works than Christ did. Yet, no one in the twentieth century
has ever seen even one miracle like Jesus performed, much less a
greater one. I can remember the late Charles W. Conn (onetime
General Overseer of the Church of God, 1966-1970) saying, You
cant do greater works than Christ did until you do at least
the same works he did. Think about this amazing admission that
came from a onetime leader of one of the worlds largest
Pentecostal denominations!
       
As a young man growing up in Jacksonville, Florida, I can
remember listening to one of the Pentecostal preachers on the radio
declare, in his hyped-up manner of speaking, how that his church
had all nine gifts of the Spirit in operation. Friends, thats
a bold statement to make. Its obvious that people who make
these kinds of statements dont fully understand what they are
saying. They dont fully understand the true nature and
character of Gods miraculous gifts.
       
If any Pentecostal could perform just one miracle that Jesus
did, the world would beat a path to their door. The New Testament
refers to the fame of Jesus eight different times. Notice Matthew
4:24, And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they
brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers
diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils,
and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he
healed them. We have to ask the question; have you or
anyone else ever heard of anything like this taking place in modern
times?
       
With all of the claims of power, gifts and anointing we have
not seen one genuine Bible miracle. The best the Pentecostal world
can do is showmanship, hype, fast music, hand clapping, jumping up
and down and for the main event, people falling backwards! This is
a far cry from anything we read about in the New Testament.
       
After the three thousand were baptized into Christ on the
day of Pentecost the Bible says, And they continued
stedfastly in the apostles doctrine and fellowship, and in
breaking of bread, and in prayers. And fear came upon every soul:
and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles (Acts
2:42-43).
       
We know the apostles did the same works Christ did because
Christ said they would and the book of Acts bears it out.
And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and
wonders wrought among the people; and they were all with one accord
in Solomons porch (Acts 5:12). There were no
unsubstantiated claims of miracles in the lives and ministry of the
apostles. Unlike the modern day charlatans, the apostles had what
they claimed to have. Paul would later write, Truly the
signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in
signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds (2 Cor. 12:12).
       
Think about it. It has been reported by a reliable source
that there are a half billion Charismatics on earth. If all these
Charismatics had the same power and gifts of the Spirit the first
century church did, dont you think we would have heard
something outstanding, something wonderful taking place by now?
       
Jesus and the apostles had real gifts, real power and
performed real miracles. This cannot be said of any preacher or so-
called apostle today.
               
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Pensacola, FL 32534
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ELDERS HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES AND AUTHORITY
Mark Lance, elder
In matters of expediency, the Holy Spirit has given authority
to the elders to make decisions that affect the church over which
they are shepherds. Obey them that have the rule over you,
and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that
must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with
grief: for that is unprofitable for you (Heb. 13:17).
       
Some, however, rebel against the word of God. Sometimes this
is done by preachers who desire to have the authority over the
congregation. Sometimes it is done by members who are more
concerned with their own selfish will rather than Gods will.
Members of the church who only go along with the decisions the
elders make when they agree with it because that is what they want
to do, is in reality not going along with the elders authority at
all. It just happens to coincide with their idea.
       
Elders do not have the authority to change anything that
pertains to doctrine. If any man speak, let him speak as
the oracles of God (1 Peter 4:11). I know of congregations
where the elders have decided to allow women to wait on the
Lords Table and/or lead public prayers. They do so without
authority from God. First Timothy 2:12 is clear on this matter,
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority
over the man, but to be in silence. Introducing a wider
role for women than the Scriptures allow usually starts by the
elders telling the congregation they will study and pray about it
for several months. Then they go ahead and do what they had planned
to do the whole time. They seek to please men, not God. The Lord
had something to say about that also. But in vain they do
worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men
(Matt. 15:9).
       
Elders also have the responsibility to know the Bible very
well. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman
that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of
truth (2 Tim. 2:15). If the elders know the truth and are
not afraid to stand for the truth, the church will remain strong.
The eldership is not the place for yes men. There have
always been those that will attack the word of God, and there
always will be. The Apostle Paul said: I am set for the
defence of the gospel (Phil. 1:17). This must also be the
practice of the eldership.
       
Elders must understand what their work is: guarding the
flock, advancing the Lords cause. Take heed therefore
unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy
Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he
hath purchased with his own blood (Acts 20:28). Go
ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He
that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
believeth not shall be damned (Mark 16:15-16).
       
In far too many congregations there are elders that are
functioning more in the work of deacons rather than elders. They
make sure no windows are broken, nor any shingles off the building.
Yet, they are not out conducting Bible studies nor checking on the
sheep that have fallen away. Let elders do the work God has given
them to do and members faithfully follow them in the Word.
               
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THE POSSIBILITY OF APOSTASY Can A Child Of God Be Lost?
Robert N. Lambert
The euphoria of receiving salvation through Jesus Christ is
often soon replaced by the terrifying possibility that you may have
sinned and will be lost. People express it in different ways, but
the concern is the same: Once saved, will I always be saved, or is
it possible to act in such a way that my eternal salvation will be
in jeopardy?
       
There are those who believe that a Christian can never act
in such a way as to be lost. Some argue that the question hinges on
the use of the word Christian. The argument is that a
true Christian will always conduct himself/herself in accordance
with Scripture and will never be lost. For support, proponents of
this position cite 1 John 3:9, Whosoever is born of God
doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot
sin, because he is born of God. Is this verse teaching
that it is impossible for a child of God (i.e. Christian) to sin?
The short answer to this question is an unequivocal NO.
Since that is true, then what is this verse teaching?
       
John uses three expressions in the context of this verse, an
understanding of which is vital to this issue. The first two are
found in verse eight (committeth sin and sinneth
from the beginning). The latter phrase is from the Greek word
harmartanei which is in the present tense. The present tense
indicates a settled character, like that of the devil, who has been
sinning from the beginning. The former statement concerns the
continuation of sin. That is, a child of God will not continue to
live in sin (harmartian ou poiei). Again, what is
contemplated here is not an isolated act of sin, but the habit of
sin, the continuation of sin. This is indicated by the verb
poiei, which means to do or to practice.
The third statement (in v.9) is that the Christian cannot go
on sinning (ou dynatai hamartanein). Here, the verb is
a present infinitive. This is important because it signifies that
the Christian is not a habitual sinner. If the expression had been
in the aorist tense, then it would indicate the impossibility of
sin. What John is arguing, therefore, is not the impossibility of
committing a sin, but rather that continuing the habitual practice
of sinning is inconsistent with the character of being a faithful
Christian. It logically follows that if a Christian acts out of
character in a habitual sinful manner, then that Christians
salvation is, at best, in peril unless he repents.
       
Please note that the emphasis here is on a person who
habitually turns back to a life of sin. All people, even
Christians, will stumble and fall short of Gods glory (see
Rom. 3:23; 1 John 1:8). However, this is not to be interpreted to
mean that when a Christian sins that all hope is lost. A person who
has entered into a proper and covenant relationship with Jesus
Christ, and who has dedicated their life as a living sacrifice to
Jesus (Rom. 12:1-2), has two tremendous blessings which follow
them. First, they have an Advocate with God. Jesus Christ stands
eternally before the Father pleading our case (see 1 John 2:1-2).
Second, we have the promise that as long as we are striving to walk
in the light of Gods way, the blood of Christ will continually
cleanse us from all sin (see 1 John 1:7). Surely, walking in the
light of God would include obedience to His commands, a penitent
spirit, appropriate worship, etc.
       
Some will argue this implies that salvation may be earned by
works and that the position is in violation of such
passages as Ephesians 2:8-9: For by grace are ye saved
through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
not of works, lest any man should boast. Their argument is
that salvation is by grace through faith and that works have no
part in our salvation. It is agreed that we could never do enough
to save ourselves, but part of Gods grace that brings
salvation includes service and obedience on our part. Notice
carefully verse 10 of the same chapter: For we are his
workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which
God hath before ordained that we should walk in them (emp.
added). God has prepared a pattern of good works and expects His
children to do them. It is to these works which Paul refers in
Philippians 2:12, when he says to work out your own
salvation. The same is true in James 2 as he declares that
faith in God is demonstrated by our obedience in doing Gods
works. To fail to walk in Gods ordained works is sin (see
James 4:17); and, unforgiven sin will cost you your salvation.
       
Further, scriptural support for the position that a
Christian can so sin as to be lost is found in the following
verses. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever
of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace
(Gal. 5:4). For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this
present world... (2 Tim. 4:10). Remember therefore
from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or
else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick
out of his place, except thou repent (Rev. 2:5).
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world
through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they
are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse
with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not
to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known
it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it
is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is
turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her
wallowing in the mire (2 Peter 2:20-22).
       
In the Galatian passage, baptized believers had returned to
the practice of the Law of Moses rather than the practice of the
Law of Christ. Paul declared they had fallen from the very thing
that could save them, grace.
       
In the Timothy passage, Paul declares that Demas is now in
love with the world. If 1 John 2:15 is a valid commentary on
Demas love of the world, then Demas was in danger of being
lost eternally because the love of the Father was not in him.
       
In the passage from Revelation 2:5, Jesus points out that
the entire congregation in Ephesus had fallen, and that they must
return, repent, and do the first works again. If not, Christ would
remove their candlestick. In other words, He would cease to
recognize them as a congregation of His church.
       
The 2nd Peter passage is one of the most vivid expressions
of the possibility of apostasy to be found in Holy Writ. Notice
that those whom the apostle addresses had escaped sin through Jesus
Christ. However, they became entangled in worldliness after
their deliverance by Christ. Peter is plain: it would have been
better had they never known salvation than to have accepted it and
then forsaken it. He compares it to a dog eating its own vomit and
a pig returning to the mud. There is no indication that their
initial conversion was lacking in sincerity. They had come seeking
salvation, found it, and then rejected it. The logical conclusion
is that those who persist in such behavior, even those who had once
tasted the heavenly gift of salvation, can be lost.
       
There are some who respond to all of this by saying that if
it is possible for a child of God to be lost, then there is no way
of being assured of salvation. Not true! The certainty of salvation
comes from a careful examination of our lives against the word of
God. For example, Paul tells us to examine ourselves to see if we
are in the faith (2 Cor. 13:1-5). Again, Paul says that we can
remain blameless and above reproach in the sight of Jesus IF WE
CONTINUE in the faith. Peter tells us to make our calling and
election sure (2 Peter 1:10) by applying the qualities listed in
verses 3-9 of 2 Peter 1.
       
In summary, salvation is a gift of Gods grace in the
person of His Son, Jesus Christ. That gift is procured through our
faithful response to the call of the Gospel. Those who hold true to
the principles of Christianity, even though they may sin from time
to time, will benefit from the never-ending flow of Christs
blood as a means by which those sins can be forgiven. However,
those who are in the faith may, by abandoning the faith, return to
the ways of the world. If they leave this life without having
repented of going back into the world and then returning to the
works of God, they will be lost. There is simply no other
conclusion to be reached.
       
Like many other promises of God, the promise of salvation is
conditional conditioned on our enduring faithfulness until
either death calls us home or the Lord returns. But he that
shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved (Matt.
24:13). Knowing this, the admonition of Revelation 2:10 surely
becomes most urgent: ...be thou faithful unto
death... (Rev. 2:10).
               
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WHATS WRONG WITH USING THE BIBLE?
I keep hearing cries and wails from faithless preachers and church
members who hold, with disdain, book, chapter and verse
preaching. They call it proof-texting; and, they do not
mean that in a commendable way quite the opposite! But
arent we commanded to handle the Scriptures rightly (2 Tim.
2:15)? We cant do that without quoting the Scriptures. Proving
all things is required is it not (1 Thess. 5:21)? How do you do
that without referring to the words of inspired men in the Bible?
How could anyone in their right mind hate pointing to the Bible for
everything we say and do (Col. 3:17)? Friend, if you take the Bible
away, we cant preach anything with Gods approval. His
approval is still sought after isnt it? Is he not the one whom
we are seeking to please? Seems to me like Paul desired to please
God when he preached. He didnt care what men thought or
wanted. I wont apologize for directing you to Galatians 1:10:
For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men?
for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of
Christ. Our brethren in the churches of Galatia were moving
away from the sound and faithful preaching of the Gospel. A tribe
of brethren today are doing exactly what they were doing, listening
to false teachers who are persuading them to NOT listen to
book, chapter and verse preaching. Does that describe
you?
               
Garland M. Robinson
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